This is where we see things differently.Because one is seeing and one is doing
Try a thought experiment..
If I took two respective 'silent' clips to a Doctor of Psychology and they know nothing about "the claims", nothing about the respective explanations and nothing about the purposes etc. make it as blind as possible so to speak. What do you think they would think about the experiences, responses and reactions (phenomenon) of the two sets of actors, not to mention the influence of the one leading them ?Actors? So already we have a judgement built into the experiment
This is the root of it, isn't it? That everyone is acting along, and none of us realise it, and people watching often get all offended by that, even angry in some cases. I'd say the explanation for both would by "psychological", which is how I keep trying to describe it, and you seem to agree and disagree at the same time
That somehow they were psychologically fundamentally different things being seen to be going on ?
My sister is one, and I would vouch for her being an expert witness. She has been paid in the thousands to be one.
She really has next to no knowledge of these martial arts in the ways we do.Again, seeing what you think might be going on and experiencing are different things. I'm sure Apollo Robbins would have no trouble pickpocketing an experience psychologist. First you have to understand the purpose and context of what is going on. Everyone is aware of "going along with teacher," or also of frantically trying to resist what is happening, whether either of those be appropriate or not. We are seeing training clips, not demos of "powers."
I just saw this today, here's some extracts from a long article by a non_Ryabko Systema instructor. I think the biggest point he makes here is that there is no non-contact work because there is always contact on some level. Whereas a supposed beam of "energy" or similar presumably needs no contact whatsoever?
What does "non-contact in martial arts" look like from the outside within the scientific paradigm? One person is waving his arm, or not even waving, but making a barely perceptible body movement, and the other person falls or loses his balance. No SEEABLE force is seen by the normal eye.
It seems to be either a giveaway or a suggestion (mesmerism, hypnosis). In terms of the modern scientific paradigm, one's arm only moves because there is a chain of biochemical reactions going on inside one's body. This chain of biochemical reactions should not in any way airborne start biochemical reactions in the other body. It's the same with laughter or with tears-it's just chemistry, friends, according to science. Our feelings, you and I, are simply chemistry. Those who understand that together with water there is a risk of throwing the baby out, turn to the works of Pavlov and try to explain everything through the concept of "reflexes" and the "first signal system. Bernstein also made considerable efforts in this field.
Why so? The whole point is that the observer sees only the physical body and does not pay attention to the fact that there is something more subtle. If we see only the physical body, then "non-contact fighting" looks like this - either like quackery or the occult. Therefore, those who take only the physical body into the beam of their Attention can rightfully consider it either the result of:
Mutual agreement
Unconscious playing along
Suggestion (mesmerism, alpha-hypnosis)
Or manifestation of "unclean powers" (demons) from the invisible world (occultism)
But as soon as one approaches and establishes full body contact, everything for such people falls into place - here we see how one body affects another body - at the right angle and in the right vector.
Our mind calms down - everything once again fits into the framework of the given picture of the world.
First of all, as you have already seen, there is no no no-contact. There is always contact. But "contact" is not a Russian word. The more accurate Russian word here is resin. Influences such as knapping, reeking, or emptying are possible if one can enter or attach oneself to the consciousness of the other person. To do this, one has to be Alive and see Alive in the other person. If the person is "glazed" (inanimate, glazed over), then by inexperience you will slip by your influence from the other person.
What would you like to warn against? Such influences are not a magic wand in defeating the world around us. Often on the decoy "no-contact fighting" are led by those whose self-esteem is wounded and who dream secretly to become a magician and wizard. There is no magic and wizardry here. There is only pure mechanics and a vision of something more subtle than the physical body.
And for those who are going to use it in combat, it's important to understand that in combat against a tough fighter, the Rope, Incense and Desolation and other types of subtle effects will only be an add-on that gives some advantage - all this allows to throw off the balance, distract attention, make a lone fighter with earthly gravity and ultimately all come down to one thing - winning precious time (literally moments). This means that the art of fighting on a dense level must be mastered and constantly improved in it - achieving in it strength, power and ease.
At the level of Intent.
However, if the opponent sees everything as well as you do, then you need to work with him even more subtly. The next level is intention. Intent goes before images. By intention, you can determine what a person is really going to do, whether it's a fight or, say, a business. In business, sometimes it's the same as in combat. And just as in combat, it's important to read the other person's true intention. People are not what they seem. That's the first thing the old folks explain. The intention of the other person is transmitted to us as well. For example, if a person happens to be near us who has a strong intention for something, that intention is transmitted to us. Words can be empty and empty words will not lift a person to a feat. But the ability to see and manage our own intention, gives us the opportunity to encourage the other person to do anything.
Intention always has a direction - in time and space. Intention can be good and evil, it can be the intention of love. It can all be transferred to another person. Or even into another person. For example, it is possible to transfer to another person the intention of fear and then he will experience unaccountable horror and if there is proper power in the intention, then the person may even turn to flight. Or vice versa, you can give another person the intention of care, love and warmth and then that person trusts us.
And in combat, you can see the intent of the enemy - it spills out of him with "trunks". Between these trunks you can walk leisurely, and then not a single blow of the enemy can reach you. Any intention can also be extinguished. So you can stop a fight in the midst of it - at the level of intent.
It is also possible to induce your opponent to move where you want him to go - by rolling on him with your intention, for example, just by indicating the intention of one or another blow.