wayne hansen wrote:Is it traditional arts that are hard to find or traditional students
Doc Stier wrote:wayne hansen wrote:Is it traditional arts that are hard to find or traditional students
Good question! Finding authentic traditional kungfu of any style, taught by a legitimate master instructor, has always been challenging by comparison to opportunities to learn other Asian martial arts, but finding serious students who are willing to replicate the master's efforts in order to achieve the same skills are as rare as hen's teeth!
Do you agree?
Bao wrote:Do you agree?
Not really. People who want to preserve the arts don’t turn them into sport.
Another great master who also taught at Shen Ji Ying was Liu Shijun (劉士俊).
That was where he had the famous encounter with Yang Banhou: one day Yang Ban Hou came home, he was happy because he threw Xiong Xian Li (Li’s nickname, he came from Xiong County). When Bauhou related the account to his father, Yang Luchan remarked, “don’t be too happy, it doesn’t look like a clean victory.”
Banhou was puzzled. Yang Luchan said “Look under your armpits.” Sure enough, there were holes under the armpits on Banhou’s robe. Liu Shijun, well-known master of eagle claw gongfu, could have caused him serious injury but obvious chose not to. Later that evening, Yang Luchan felt uneasy thinking about this, and quickly made his way to Liu Shijun’s place.
Liu was already packing his belongings to leave the city, as per tradition. Yang persuaded him to stay, saying this encounter was but a casual crossing of hands, all the while praising Liu’s skill and character. After much persuasion, Liu finally agreed to stay and came to admire Yang. One of Liu’s most prominent disciples was Liu Dekuan (劉德寬), who went on to achieve even greater famous after studying with Dong Haichuan.
windwalker wrote:Bao wrote:Do you agree?
Not really. People who want to preserve the arts don’t turn them into sport.
Historically it was the competitions that often validated the art, the master of an art
or how different masters introduced their arts..
Something that the video touched on.Another great master who also taught at Shen Ji Ying was Liu Shijun (劉士俊).
That was where he had the famous encounter with Yang Banhou: one day Yang Ban Hou came home, he was happy because he threw Xiong Xian Li (Li’s nickname, he came from Xiong County). When Bauhou related the account to his father, Yang Luchan remarked, “don’t be too happy, it doesn’t look like a clean victory.”
Banhou was puzzled. Yang Luchan said “Look under your armpits.” Sure enough, there were holes under the armpits on Banhou’s robe. Liu Shijun, well-known master of eagle claw gongfu, could have caused him serious injury but obvious chose not to. Later that evening, Yang Luchan felt uneasy thinking about this, and quickly made his way to Liu Shijun’s place.
Liu was already packing his belongings to leave the city, as per tradition. Yang persuaded him to stay, saying this encounter was but a casual crossing of hands, all the while praising Liu’s skill and character. After much persuasion, Liu finally agreed to stay and came to admire Yang. One of Liu’s most prominent disciples was Liu Dekuan (劉德寬), who went on to achieve even greater famous after studying with Dong Haichuan.
There were famous contest set up in the old days...
People came to see how the masters or students used the methods they were noted for, or represented
wayne hansen wrote:Is it traditional arts that are hard to find or traditional students
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